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That's certainly very helpful, I think, actually more helpful than these newer microbiome companies that are making a lot of predictions based on biome data collected from stool that don't have a lot of research behind them such as you know, we've tested your stool and determined that based on your biome data, you should be on XYZ probiotic that we are by the way manufacturing and selling. And, you know, that's that's one of the tests. Ben Greenfield: Right? Or your toilet paper and a dongle on your iPhone. Eric Weinstein: So these are all great topics I mean one of the great mysteries since you've already brought up explosive diarrhea we probably lost our listeners with that one is why is my you know, why is my toilet not a laboratory that is always taking data away from what I'm passing through me, And so I think that - and we can delve into this if you would like - the ability to be able to gather data about your own body and then decide what type of nutrition or exercise as loved and how Haitian protocol be appropriate for you allows you to bypass a lot of this epidemiological data that paints with a very broad brush. And I think the saving grace though, is that we live in an era now where the type of self quantification that would have been prohibitively expensive 10 years ago, is now readily affordable and available in the comfort of your own home in many cases. There's just so many, so many nuances to take into consideration. And you know, the ability to be able to review an abstract and as We're discussing before we started recording, you know, inability to determine whether or not a fasting study was done on a male or female population or, you know whether or not a headline that might say, vilify red meat is actually looking at the lifestyle practices of the people consuming said meats or the sourcing, you know, processed versus unprocessed.
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It is difficult with you know, closed access to many of these journals. Ben Greenfield: Well, yeah, yeah, maybe a little bit. Eric Weinstein: I figure if we can profit from your pain. I've always been a voracious and curious consumer, I just. But, but I do love to read I love to study this stuff. Ben Greenfield: Aside from the extreme athlete piece, I don't think masochism lends any any great deal of credibility to one, aside from a little bit of time spent testing things like you know, ketones and carbohydrate mixes in the trenches and finding out what might give you explosive diarrhea. You've been studying this from an academic perspective and you seem the ideal person to be our jungle guide into the wilds of what is known about us. And so, I've always been afraid to enter the space but you've been recommended as one of the countries or if not the world's top trainers, you've been an extreme athlete. You have small studies, you don't have a lot of discipline across different different fields to keep any kind of interoperability.
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What do we do with integrating the tremendous amount of information some some of the literature in the biomedical field is almost unreadable and it's extremely confusing. And what I wanted to talk to you about is a little bit this issue of how we sort through our bodies and our minds as mechanical systems. Eric Weinstein: We've had healthy, health-ish. Ben Greenfield: -but you've had healthy guests? So you are the first health guest I think that we've had on the program. I'm here today with my guests in studio Ben Greenfield down from Washington State. Eric Weinstein: Hello, you found the portal.